Category Archives: Marketing thru Operations

Profiling Subscription / Service Customers

Jim answers questions from fellow Drillers
(More questions with answers here, Work Overview here, Index of concepts here)

Topic Overview

Hi again folks, Jim Novo here.

This Driller knows his stuff, using advanced database marketing techniques on the customer acquisition side. But in a business where the bill gets paid every month and it’s about the same (electric utility), how do you get to the R and F (Recency and Frequency) to model potential customer defections? Great question, and a pithy answer.

Remember, you can use RF profiling on any behavior not just payment related activity! If you don’t know what we’re talking about with this RF stuff, see explanation here.


Q. Jim, Ordered and read your book AFTER reading EVERY page in your website. Your newsletter is outstanding and you seem to be one of the few with real life experience in database marketing with the skills to simply explain with pragmatic examples of how RFM and LTV should be used.

We are a technology based Call Center company with over 70 clients – we do a lot of the “operational” CRM stuff you refer to – Siebel, Onyx, Kana, Webline, as well as a lot of custom developed SFA solutions and data warehousing solutions we developed – mostly the premise of investing to collect enough information to do the 360 view of the customer across communication medium (email, chat, phone, fax) and reason for calling (campaign, sales, orders, info, customer service).

We have a good mix of B-B as well as B-C. We already do a lot of the demographic modeling for list acquisition (SIC codes, size, number of computers, Geo …). One thing I noticed is that we do a lot of lead generation based upon list acquisitions along with inbound marketing campaigns that seem to address one shot Sales, not recurring sales.

For example, we sell and service de-regulated energy for one client – this is sell once, then service. Since they pay every month for the service, how do you suggest the RFM model be used for service based sales since there is not really an R or an F??? We still have acquisition and retention problems, but we mainly focus on operational efficiency through technology, not strategic use of CRM data. I would really like to be able to add real value based upon the data collected.

I know this is not your forte, but I was just curious if you had any opinions using CRM data in an RFM model when the product is basically recurring service.

A: Thanks for the compliments on the site, book, and newsletter. I hope they will be helpful to you as we try to get a firmer grasp on these subjects this year!

It’s a little tough to provide you a direct answer to such a broad question without more details, but in general, R and F are highly predictive of any action-oriented behavior. In a “billing / service” business like a utility, you sometimes have to hunt a bit harder for the action you want to model as predictive.

For example, at Home Shopping Network, use of the automated ordering process (touch-tone interface to the ordering system circa 1990) was very highly correlated with Future Intent to Purchase. Not exactly a traditional RF action, to be sure, but a falling RF score on use of the interface was very highly predictive of a defecting customer.

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Measuring dis-Engagement

Engagement Matters – Until it Ends.  Right?

Here’s something that continues to puzzle me about all the efforts around measuring Engagement and using these results as a business metric or model of online behavior.

If Engagement is so important to evaluate – and it can be, depending on how you define it – then doesn’t the termination of Engagement also have to be important?  If you desire to create Engagement, shouldn’t you also care about why / how it fails or ends? And if the end is important, what about how long Engagement lasts as a “quality” metric?

Seems logical the end of Engagement might matter.  Let’s call it dis-Engagement.  Simple concept really: of the visitors / customers that are Engaged today (however you define Engagement), what percent of them are still Engaged a week later?  3 months or 1 year later?

Whatever dis-Engagement metric you decide to use, a standard measurement would create an even playing field for evaluating the quality of Engagement you create.  From there, a business could invest in approaches producing the most durable outcome.

Since Engagement is almost always defined as an interaction of some kind, tracking dis-Engagement could be standardized using metrics rooted in human behavior.  Recency is one of the best metrics for an idea like this because it’s universal, easy to understand, and can be mapped across sources like products and campaigns.  Recency is also predictive; it provides comparative likelihoods, e.g. this segment is likely more engaged than that one.

Plus, using Recency would align online customer measurement with offline tools and practices.  This could have implications for ideas like defining “current channel”, e.g. customer is now engaged with this channel, has dis-engaged from that channel.

Taking this path brings up a couple of other related ideas, in line with the discussion around customer journey and entwined with the whole customer experience movement.

Peak Engagement

Let’s say there is Engagement, and because we’re now measuring dis-Engagement, we see Engagement end.  So, is Engagement a one-shot state of being, meaning the value should be measured as such?  Or, does longer lasting Engagement have value, and if so, what about when it ends? Shouldn’t we want to find the cause of dis-Engagement?

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Marketing Responsible for Customer Experience?

 The Data

According to this survey, Marketers are not now really “responsible”  for the customer experience (whatever responsible means in this context) but will be over the next 3 years.  If it was just the vendor (Marketo) trumpeting this idea, I’d be more skeptical.  But this vendor hired the Intelligence Unit from The Economist organization to do this work and the report includes the actual questions, meaning you can check for bias.  Population is 478 CMO’s and senior marketing executives worldwide, seems decent / not cherry-picked.

So I will cut the vendor some slack.   Questions though, right?  Just what is customer experience, in particular for the purposes of success measurement?  How does it fit with related ideas like Customer Journey / LifeCycle and Engagement?  Certainly if the above is a significant macro trend we ought to sort this all out first?  And of course, putting some analytical rigor (structure, process, and definitions?) in place to support the effort ;)

The Story

I know a lot of marketing people who have either had this authority for years (multi-channel database marketing) or are moving in this direction, so the results make sense to me.  To be clear(er), “experience” for these people reaches all the way back from UX into fulfillment and service.  So when they talk about experience, they are talking visitor and customer; not just navigation and landing pages, but also shipping times and return rates.

Perhaps increased access to customer data is revealing the significant impact customer experience in this larger sense has on long-term customer value?  This idea, coupled with increased focus on accountability (also covered in the survey) could be driving this trend.

Worth the read, only 20 pages long with a lot of charts.  Here’s 4 snippets to hook you:

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