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		<title>Marketing Jump Ball</title>
		<link>http://blog.jimnovo.com/2009/04/09/marketing-jump-ball/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Novo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marketing Accountability.
Brand is what you do, not what you say. 
Marketing Alignment.
Here are 3 free webinars you might want to take advantage of.  You might not agree with these opinions, but hey, it&#8217;s a good idea to get out of the echo chamber once and awhile, don&#8217;t you think?  Try these online sessions for a little brain stretching:
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;
Moving Marketing [...]<p>Have a question on Customer Valuation, Retention, Loyalty, or Defection?  Go ahead and send it to me <a href="mailto:help@jimnovo.com">here</a>.  If on the topic above, you can leave a comment on the post:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2009/04/09/marketing-jump-ball/">Marketing Jump Ball</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2009/01/21/from-audience-to-the-individual/">Marketing Accountability</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2009/02/27/marketing-richter-scale/">Brand is what you do, not what you say</a>. </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2009/01/16/time-for-marketing-alignment/">Marketing Alignment</a>.</p>
<p>Here are 3 free webinars you might want to take advantage of.  You might not agree with these opinions, but hey, it&#8217;s a good idea to <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2009/04/03/heavy-lifting/" target="_blank">get out of the echo chamber</a> once and awhile, don&#8217;t you think?  Try these online sessions for a little brain stretching:</p>
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<p><a href="https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/785040378">Moving Marketing From &#8220;The Money Spenders&#8221; to The Money MAKERS</a><br />
April 15, 2009  noon ET    Jonathan Salem Baskin, Jim Sterne, Jim Novo</p>
<p>With 10% of marketing executives being perceived as strategic and influential by the C-suite there&#8217;s clearly a crisis of confidence.  I&#8217;ve mentioned <a href="http://dimbulb.typepad.com/my_weblog/">Jonathan&#8217;s blog and book before</a> and here&#8217;s a chance to hear a bit of the inside story.  You&#8217;ll learn how to exceed expectations of both C-suite executives and customers, neutralize political feuds by organizing cross-departmentally, and how to stop thinking like a reporter and start acting like an advisor</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a href="http://thepmn.goodbarry.com/">Everything They’ve Told You About Marketing Is Wrong<br />
</a></span><span style="color: #000000;">April 21, 2009   1pm ET  Ron Shevlin</span></p>
<p><span class="white">Are you sick and tired of reading the same old blah, blah, blah, from the so- called marketing experts who just tell you stuff you already know? Then you need to attend this session as the grumpy old man cuts through the morass of bad advice and introduces you to the must-dos in the new world of marketing.  I know Ron personally (as in offline) and even if you disagree, you <strong>will</strong> be entertained.</span></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; </p>
<p><a href="http://register.webcastgroup.com/event/?wid=0870519094639">What Online Marketers Can Teach Offline Colleagues (and vice versa)</a><br />
May 19, 2009  noon ET     Kevin Hillstrom, Akin Arikan, and Jim Novo</p>
<p>A WAA event, open to both members and non-members.  Web analysts are not the first to grapple with multiple channels.  Traditional marketers have always had to illuminate customer behavior across stores, call center, direct mail, etc.  So, rather than reinventing the wheel in each camp, what proven methods can you teach each other?  Three different but aligned approaches on solving the multichannel puzzle, should be something for everyone here.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Take your brain out for some exercise, will ya?</p>
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<p>Have a question on Customer Valuation, Retention, Loyalty, or Defection?  Go ahead and send it to me <a href="mailto:help@jimnovo.com">here</a>.  If on the topic above, you can leave a comment on the post:</p>
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		<title>NCDM Show &#8211; you going?</title>
		<link>http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/12/03/ncdm-show/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Novo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Next week I will be moderating a panel at the NCDM show. 
Don&#8217;t know NCDM?  If you&#8217;re a web analyst interested in what happens in BI from a Marketing perspective, this is the show for you &#8211; National Center for Database Marketing. 
I&#8217;m moderating a &#8220;shootout&#8221; panel titled Web Analytics Solutions Showdown: How Do You Measure Customer [...]<p>Have a question on Customer Valuation, Retention, Loyalty, or Defection?  Go ahead and send it to me <a href="mailto:help@jimnovo.com">here</a>.  If on the topic above, you can leave a comment on the post:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/12/03/ncdm-show/">NCDM Show &#8211; you going?</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next week I will be moderating a panel at the NCDM show. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know NCDM?  If you&#8217;re a web analyst interested in what happens in BI from a Marketing perspective, this is the show for you &#8211; <a href="http://www.ncdmevents.com/ncdm2008/public/enter.aspx" target="_blank">National Center for Database Marketing</a>. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m moderating a &#8220;shootout&#8221; panel titled <a href="http://www.ncdmevents.com/ncdm2008/public/SessionDetails.aspx?SessionID=1630" target="_blank">Web Analytics Solutions Showdown: How Do You Measure Customer Engagement?</a> with panelists Barry Parshall from WebTrends, <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">John Squire from Coremetrics, and David Kirschner from Omniture (Jon Gibson / ClickTracks had to drop out).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">No right or wrong answers for this session, mostly a demonstration of how different WA platforms approach the challenge of &#8220;Measuring Engagement&#8221; differently.  Just tell us what you believe &#8220;Engagement&#8221; is and how it is measured with your tool using a case study.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">Then moderated audience tears your vendor heart out.  </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">Should be a hoot!</span></p>
<p>I came up with this idea because I thought it would be quite useful for the NCDM audience to see what web analytics looks like when it mimics traditional offline database marketing thinking.  An &#8220;outreach&#8221; kind of idea, from a Web Analytics Association perspective, if you know what I mean.  And these BI folks, they can be a very tough crowd, they&#8217;ve seen a lot of this before, just from different data / systems.</p>
<p>In fact, there are tons of BI people out there who want to learn as much about WA as they can, because they can <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/11/07/web-intelligence/" target="_blank">see what is coming</a>, they want to figure out how to merge offline and online Intelligence.  And by my way of thinking, &#8220;Engagement&#8221; &#8211; however you want to measure it &#8211; is probably the single most important data export WA offers into the BI world.</p>
<p>Why?  Because BI can&#8217;t measure the &#8220;high funnel&#8221; nearly as well as WA can.  But this capability is also the curse of WA, because there&#8217;s so much irrelevant data.  So what BI really wants to know is this: How do I define and extract the <strong>important</strong> events (<a href="http://semphonic.blogs.com/semangel/2008/11/warehousing-web-analytics-data-finding-magic-moments-.html" target="_blank">what Gary calls Magic Moments</a>) from WA data?</p>
<p>If you are going to the NCDM show, hope to see you there!</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not clear why this show could be really important to your web or business analyst career, read the <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/11/07/web-intelligence/" target="_blank">post on Web Intelligence</a>, and then read <a href="http://www.kaushik.net/avinash/2008/12/web-analytics-career-advice.html" target="_blank">I am an Analytics God, I want more $$.  How?</a> by Avinash and think about the 4 paths he describes.</p>
<p>Back in 1993, I went with the <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/marketing-bands-series/" target="_blank">HSN analytics team</a> to NCDM.  We were the only team talking about getting data in real time (from the live show) and overnight customer updates.  Everybody else was dealing with lags of a month if not a quarter to get data.   On the way home we were all were wondering if HSN was a unique case, that this idea of running a business &#8220;interactively, in real time&#8221; was something other companies simply would never have to deal with.  How would the systems interact?  How would you deal with the Latency issues between &#8220;interactive&#8221; and &#8220;regular&#8221; business? </p>
<p>What is the value of &#8220;transient data&#8221; versus &#8220;static data&#8221;, of group versus segment versus individual behavior?  How much transient data do you need to store, how do you convert transient group and segment data into individual static data that is meaningful?  </p>
<p>15 years later, I&#8217;m proud to explore those very ideas in this session with the attendees at NCDM.</p>
<p>By the way, if you&#8217;re sticking to the tech track up the BI ladder, the show for the <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2007/08/10/marketing-technology-interface/" target="_blank">opposite side of the brain</a> to NCDM is the <a href="http://www.tdwi.org/" target="_blank">TDWI show</a>.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Have a question on Customer Valuation, Retention, Loyalty, or Defection?  Go ahead and send it to me <a href="mailto:help@jimnovo.com">here</a>.  If on the topic above, you can leave a comment on the post:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/12/03/ncdm-show/">NCDM Show &#8211; you going?</a></p>
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		<title>Feed Advertising Sucks Too</title>
		<link>http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/10/13/feed-advertising-sucks-too/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Novo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As much, or perhaps more, than the rest of Display.
I mean, here&#8217;s a chance to get it right. 
You know who the audience is what the context is of readers on a feed.  But no, once again, the brilliant Social engineers go for Quantity, not Quality, which is the mistake the Web has been making since &#8220;Hits&#8221;.  Quantity only [...]<p>Have a question on Customer Valuation, Retention, Loyalty, or Defection?  Go ahead and send it to me <a href="mailto:help@jimnovo.com">here</a>.  If on the topic above, you can leave a comment on the post:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/10/13/feed-advertising-sucks-too/">Feed Advertising Sucks Too</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much, or perhaps more, than the rest of Display.</p>
<p>I mean, here&#8217;s a chance to get it right. </p>
<p>You know <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">who the audience is</span> what the context is of readers on a feed.  But no, once again, the brilliant Social engineers go for Quantity, not Quality, which is the <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/23/no-requirements-doc-for-online-marketing/" target="_blank">mistake the Web has been making since &#8220;Hits&#8221;</a>.  Quantity only makes sense if you can get Weight from the media, <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/10/08/broken-online-model-endcap/#comment-54009" target="_blank">and the web has no Weight</a>.</p>
<p>Here I am, reading the feed for the Freakonomics blog, and I get a dating ad (click to enlarge):</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.jimnovo.com/images/dating.jpg"><img src="http://www.jimnovo.com/images/dating-sm.jpg" alt="" /></a></p>
<p>The Freakonomics blog would be a great advertising environment for so many products, whether you are in the Direct camp or the Brand camp.  But instead, we&#8217;re just going to <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/01/repeating-the-past/" target="_blank">Repeat the Past</a>.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Have a question on Customer Valuation, Retention, Loyalty, or Defection?  Go ahead and send it to me <a href="mailto:help@jimnovo.com">here</a>.  If on the topic above, you can leave a comment on the post:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/10/13/feed-advertising-sucks-too/">Feed Advertising Sucks Too</a></p>
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		<title>Broken Online Model Endcap</title>
		<link>http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/10/08/broken-online-model-endcap/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Novo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m going to leave the Requirements / Model issue to simmer for a while; thanks for all your help exploring it.  I get the feeling people might want to connect with more practical ideas right now and not take on the windmills of the Tech / Marketing Interface.
So I&#8217;ll wrap up with a few relevant links to what [...]<p>Have a question on Customer Valuation, Retention, Loyalty, or Defection?  Go ahead and send it to me <a href="mailto:help@jimnovo.com">here</a>.  If on the topic above, you can leave a comment on the post:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/10/08/broken-online-model-endcap/">Broken Online Model Endcap</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to leave the <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/23/no-requirements-doc-for-online-marketing/" target="_blank">Requirements / Model</a> issue to simmer for a while; thanks for all your help exploring it.  I get the feeling people might want to connect with more practical ideas right now and not take on the windmills of the <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2007/08/10/marketing-technology-interface/" target="_blank">Tech / Marketing Interface</a>.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;ll wrap up with a few relevant links to what others have recently said about this model / requirements problem.</p>
<p><strong>Facebook COO</strong></p>
<p>Yesterday, <a href="http://adage.com/mediaworks/article?article_id=131534" target="_blank">Ad Age tells us</a> that Facebook&#8217;s Chief Operating Officer Sheryl Sandberg said this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Google and its competitors have made answering demands for information very profitable by selling ads attached to search requests, or demand fulfillment, Ms. Sandberg a former Google executive herself, noted.  &#8220;What no one&#8217;s figured out how to do is demand generation,&#8221; she said.  &#8220;We need to find a new model and new metrics,&#8221; she added.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/02/01/interview-podcast-jim-novo/" target="_blank">Serendipity problem</a>, right?  You can&#8217;t Search for what you <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serendipity" target="_blank">don&#8217;t know about already</a>?</p>
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<p>You say Demand Generation and Demand Fulfillment, I say <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/30/new-online-marketing-model/" target="_blank">Awareness and Interest</a>.  Same thing; Demand generation happens when people are made Aware of something, as opposed to having Interest already and Searching for it.  So we agree there.</p>
<p>I think where we might differ is I&#8217;m saying the web is simply too expensive for the Awareness it delivers <strong>because it&#8217;s intentionally decentralized.</strong>  I&#8217;m saying the very essence of the web, what makes the web the web, is a fundamentally poor structure for generating Awareness / Demand when compared with centralized media.</p>
<p>So while there may be a &#8221;new model&#8221; for Awareness / Demand out there somewhere, it will be inefficient compared to current media alternatives.  To keep trying to build a general purpose Awareness / Demand generation model on the web is <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/01/repeating-the-past/" target="_blank">Repeating the Past</a>.  Why don&#8217;t we just move on and create <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/30/new-online-marketing-model/#comment-53038" target="_blank">“Interest Platforms” instead of “Awareness Platforms”</a>?</p>
<p>Just to be perfectly clear, I am not saying Display &#8220;doesn&#8217;t work&#8221;.  What I am saying is that it doesn&#8217;t work <strong>well enough for the cost</strong> when compared to other Awareness media to be used for the purpose of generating Awareness.</p>
<p><strong>Search as Display, or Display as Search?</strong></p>
<p>Google-Click, if they feel generous, may provide some much needed data on <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/03/28/perfect-google-click-world/" target="_blank">what actually goes on between Display and Search</a> that will boost the value of Display.  After all, AdSense is really a (not very good) Interest platform, isn&#8217;t it?  But just to show I&#8217;m not a total wonk, some people are working on what might be a better Interest Platform. </p>
<p>Jonathan Mendez in <a href="http://www.optimizeandprophesize.com/jonathan_mendezs_blog/2008/10/display-becomes.html" target="_blank">Display Becomes Us</a> talks about <a href="http://blog.lookery.com/2008/09/28/a-comment-thread-with-fred/" target="_blank">Lookery</a> and the idea that Search could become &#8220;display advertising&#8217;s operating principle&#8221;.  I&#8217;m not exactly sure what this technology is up to, but it sounds like an &#8220;implied Interest&#8221; approach with higher quality than AdSense.  Personally, I doubt a database of search referrers can be as <strong>universally relevant</strong> as Search but it probably could work for some categories, and it absolutely has the promise to be much better than Display or AdSense, which both suffer from the <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/30/new-online-marketing-model/#comment-53218" target="_blank">lean forward problem</a>.  Ar least you can <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/03/05/adsense-works/" target="_blank">fix this problem with AdSense</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Facebook Search Ads</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2007/10/02/your-ad-everywhere/" target="_blank">for some time</a> that if Social Media wants a monetization model that works (is relevant) they <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/16/wrong-model-dumb-money/" target="_blank">should try Search</a>.  But the Socials have repeatedly resisted going that way for some reason.  Now we have Facebook announcing that Search-driven monetization is <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/livesearch/archive/2008/10/07/facebook-friends-live-search.aspx" target="_blank">up and running with Microsoft</a>.</p>
<p>I tried some searches and found not only relevant Facebook groups but also (shazzaam!) relevant ads.  It&#8217;s not Demand Generation, but it will probably make money, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p><strong>Recursive Navel Gazing</strong></p>
<p>Finally, I would simply like to make the point again that just because certain highly specialized online Display promotions can be forced to work does not mean they are &#8220;Marketing Breakthroughs&#8221;, it just means they are so highly targeted they can&#8217;t fail (um, like Search?), which also means they cannot be rolled out in any volume &#8211; that old &#8220;Awareness problem&#8221; for the web again.</p>
<p>Selling Facebook widgets on Facebook or <a href="http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/09/bloggers-increase-hp-laptop-sales-85.html" target="_blank">HP Notebooks to people reading specific tech blogs</a> is not Marketing Genius, it&#8217;s shooting fish in a barrel.  There&#8217;s no Reach, and these efforts don&#8217;t Scale &#8211; elements critical to generating tangible Awareness.</p>
<p>The fact this kind of promotion works is simply evidence that <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/03/05/adsense-works/" target="_blank">hyper-contextual targeting works</a> on the web, which supports the general argument against an Awareness / Display platform on the web and for Search / Interest as the right model to be pursued.</p>
<p>Hey, at least some folks on the Tech side are moving forward!</p>
<p>Have a question on Customer Valuation, Retention, Loyalty, or Defection?  Go ahead and send it to me <a href="mailto:help@jimnovo.com">here</a>.  If on the topic above, you can leave a comment on the post:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/10/08/broken-online-model-endcap/">Broken Online Model Endcap</a></p>
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		<title>New Online Marketing Model First?</title>
		<link>http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/30/new-online-marketing-model/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Novo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, the call for a new Online Marketing Requirements doc to correct the Wrong Model, Dumb Money problem did not get much traction so far.  So I&#8217;m thinking maybe you need a new Online Marketing Model first to hang the Requirements doc on.  Fair enough.
Here&#8217;s the challenge: I don&#8217;t think there is a universal enough agreement on what online brings to the [...]<p>Have a question on Customer Valuation, Retention, Loyalty, or Defection?  Go ahead and send it to me <a href="mailto:help@jimnovo.com">here</a>.  If on the topic above, you can leave a comment on the post:</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the call for a new <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/23/no-requirements-doc-for-online-marketing/" target="_blank">Online Marketing Requirements doc</a> to correct the <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/16/wrong-model-dumb-money/" target="_blank">Wrong Model, Dumb Money problem</a> did not get much traction so far.  So I&#8217;m thinking maybe you need a new Online Marketing Model first to hang the Requirements doc on.  Fair enough.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the challenge: I don&#8217;t think there is a universal enough agreement on what online brings to the Marketing party.  Sure, it gets explained in tons of ways, but for the most part these explanations are all Tactical stuff &#8211; do this, get that.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not good enough, that&#8217;s too small, and it&#8217;s not unique to online.  CEO&#8217;s and CMO&#8217;s are looking for the Strategy edge, and they are looking for ways Online is a &#8220;logical fit&#8221; into the Marketing Mix.  What is online &#8220;for&#8221;, and perhaps more importantly, what can it do better than what we already have?</p>
<p>This is important because if you can get to this place, then you have leverage, then you have the ability to draw more money into Online Marketing / Analysis -<strong> because it is different</strong>.</p>
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<p>When everything we come up with replicates the Offline model but doesn&#8217;t work as well &#8211; take Display advertising, for example, the business model most every &#8220;new idea&#8221; uses &#8211; then how would you expect to get any respect?  Seriously, it looks ridiculous from outside the small world (Marketing budget-wise) of Online.  What other medium relentlessly pursues a failed business model so persistently, hoping something will change?  There are exceptions.  But most of these exceptions play in such a small sandbox or are so recursive (selling Facebook widgets on Facebook) they are irrelevant to the broad scope of Marketing (<a href="http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/09/bloggers-increase-hp-laptop-sales-85.html" target="_blank">example</a>).  They don&#8217;t scale.</p>
<p>I have always loved the <strong>Lean Back versus Lean Forward </strong>model<strong> &#8211; </strong>one of the earliest attempts at explaining why online is different.  The first time I heard this phrase, back in 1997 on the ClickZ discussion list (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rest_in_peace" target="_blank">RIP</a>), I knew exactly what it meant.  It&#8217;s visual and I could immediately write a page or two describing the &#8220;Online Difference&#8221; this idea implies.  But I&#8217;m a Behaviorist, I get all the implications of this idea.  Problem is:</p>
<p>1. The vast majority of Marketers are not Behaviorists, they are <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_Rating_Point" target="_blank">GRP</a>-ists.  For these people, Marketing is about demographics and psychographics, not Behavior.</p>
<p>2.  Lean Back / Lean Forward is probably too abstract to be very directional for the Technologists, they can&#8217;t get to the Requirements from there.  And direction is what they need.</p>
<p>3.  I&#8217;m not a fan of &#8220;Either - Or&#8221; models in Marketing, just too cute.  I often talk about the concept of a <a href="http://www.customerthink.com/forum/push_vs_pull_crm" target="_blank">&#8220;slider&#8221; on a continuum</a> between ideas like Brand versus Direct (like a Low - High Volume control).  Marketing is always a mix, and the Optimal slider position between ideas like this varies by product, media, audience, etc.  Marketing is not an Either &#8211; Or concept, much as I&#8217;m sure some would like to think it is.  Would be more convenient for the Tech side!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to try to convince you what the right model might be here.  I would much rather have a discussion about concepts, and build the model together.  But I will tell you something that keeps coming to my mind over and over as we watch all this play out, as the different business models succeed and fail.  I see a high-level commonality running though all the results to date.</p>
<p>As you probably know, I&#8217;m into Marketing Productivity &#8211; Online and Offline.  I want to generate the highest, most accountable return to the company I possibly can on Marketing spend.  This attitude does <strong>not mean</strong> I can turn every dollar spent into an ROI equation.  I look for probabilities, likelihoods, any signs I can find of Marketing impact.</p>
<p>When I look at the Marketing world through this lens, and holding true to the Psych model <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/tag/aidas/" target="_blank">AIDAS</a> (Awareness, Interest, Desire, Action, Satisfaction) that describes how humans process Marketing information, here is where I land:</p>
<p>Media &#8211; offline or online &#8211; are in the business of aggregating audiences.  Marketers want to access those audiences to spread messages.  The fundamental &#8220;model&#8221; problem I see is a dimensional one, meaning how the audiences are &#8220;described&#8221; or segmented.</p>
<p>In offline media, all you have is demographics, maybe psychographics.  This is useful because you can quantify Reach and Frequency and talk about &#8220;Awareness&#8221; among a certain population, the first step in the AIDAS model.  Online, the very nature of the activity &#8211; the &#8220;Lean Forward&#8221; idea &#8211; is past Awareness in the AIDAS Path. </p>
<p>Thinks about this: are Demographics and Psychographics relevant when you have Interest?  Do you care what the characterisitics of an audience are when they are <strong>already Interested</strong>?</p>
<p>Online, you are talking about audiences that have reached the Interest stage already.  This is why &#8220;Broadcast&#8221; or Display messaging is so irrelevant to these audiences <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/03/05/adsense-works/" target="_blank">unless it is hyper-contextually targeted</a>.  They literally <strong>don&#8217;t care to be Aware of other things when they already have Interest in a specific thing</strong>.  Their minds tend to be shut to Awareness in this mode.</p>
<p>And this is what Online brings to the media party that is new, is different, is desirable.  Something very difficult to find Offline &#8211; the idea of Aggregated Interest - and a reason to invest in Online. </p>
<p>In other words, Dollar for Dollar spent,</p>
<p><strong>Offline</strong> is more efficient at aggregating<strong> Awareness</strong> than Online</p>
<p><strong>Online</strong> is more efficient at aggregating <strong>Interest</strong> than Offline</p>
<p>If you have Marketing budget to waste, I&#8217;d agree this line of thinking is probably irrelevant.  But if you&#8217;re looking for the highest and best use of that budget, does this idea make sense to you?</p>
<p>Can we start building the new Online Marketing Model from here?  If the Tech side developed more &#8221;Interest tech&#8221; and less &#8220;Awareness tech&#8221;, don&#8217;t you think Online Marketing would be better off?</p>
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		<title>Wrong Model, Dumb Money</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Novo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not a technophobic Marketeer, an old &#8220;resistant to change&#8221; type.  In fact, I&#8217;m just the opposite, and that&#8217;s why I can&#8217;t understand why Online continues to Repeat Past Marketing Failures.
I was one of those kids that built crystal radio sets and messed around with ham radio.  My favorite place to hang out was Radio [...]<p>Have a question on Customer Valuation, Retention, Loyalty, or Defection?  Go ahead and send it to me <a href="mailto:help@jimnovo.com">here</a>.  If on the topic above, you can leave a comment on the post:</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a technophobic Marketeer, an old &#8220;resistant to change&#8221; type.  In fact, I&#8217;m just the opposite, and that&#8217;s why I can&#8217;t understand why Online continues to <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/01/repeating-the-past/" target="_blank">Repeat Past Marketing Failures</a>.</p>
<p>I was one of those kids that built crystal radio sets and messed around with ham radio.  My favorite place to hang out was Radio Shack, back when they were an electronic parts house.  I built all kinds of circuit board stuff with a soldering iron, mostly bugs and telco hacks.  I was a geek when they were called nerds. </p>
<p>In 1977 I learned the BASIC language and was writing simple programs for the mainframe at college.  In 1978, I was part of a small group of students who worked on the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synclavier" target="_blank">Synclavier</a>, the first large scale truly digital music synthesizer.  I started working with PC&#8217;s in 1987, and had a home computer by 1991.  I was one of those people who dialed up to the CompuServe Forums at 300 baud, primarily talking about computers and music, figuring out how to rewrite .bat and .ini files to get the <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/distractions/" target="_blank">computer / keyboard interfaces</a> working properly. </p>
<p>And at the same time, making lots of  &#8221;online friends&#8221; ;).</p>
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<p>So I have to tell you, the following is not coming from someone who is against or afraid of technology or experimentation.  What I am against is the illogical squandering of resources, and people who are inflexible in their thinking.</p>
<p>I understand perfectly well why coders get excited about developing new ideas for new platforms, solving problems and providing new functionality.  Let&#8217;s build something for Facebook!  Get tired of that?  Let&#8217;s build something for iPhone!  Etc.  On and on, over and over.  Nothing wrong with that.</p>
<p>Here is what I don&#8217;t understand about this &#8220;innovation&#8221; on the web.  The magic bullet for monetizing all the free platforms and applications so pervasive on the web is Advertising.  But the platforms and applications are rarely developed, it seems, with a clear vision of creating value for the Advertiser.  Surprisingly, this part of the job is not well thought out and often bolted on later.</p>
<p>The problem with this approach should be obvious &#8211; ultimately, the application fails to pay for itself, the business model collapses, and that generation of work disappears with another &#8220;lesson learned&#8221;.   Except, this lesson is often the same lesson learned in the previous generation, from an Advertising perspective.</p>
<p>Here is something we have now learned about 20,000 times on the web:  Advertising lacking proper Context generates little value for Advertisers.  As is the case offline, by the way.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what makes a prediction like <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/03/19/social-media-that-works/" target="_blank">MySpace will be Tripod all over again </a>from an Advertising perspective so easy to make.  It doesn&#8217;t matter what the platform or application is.  If it lacks the key contextual elements to support successful Advertising, it will fail from an Advertising perspective.</p>
<p>Why care about this?</p>
<p>I will tell you why &#8211; <strong>Budget for Online Marketing / Analytics</strong>.</p>
<p>As long as online looks and acts like some kind of ongoing experiment, it&#8217;s going to get that kind of attention and budget.  Seriously.  And the ongoing, repeated failures of the same ideas over and over does not help with this issue very much, know what I mean?  I know, I know, you think each generation is a new idea because it&#8217;s new technology.</p>
<p>But these are not new ideas to Management, and they&#8217;re not ideas to Marketing.  They&#8217;re the same ideas with new technology, and each fails in the same way the others did.  So, why do we keep repeating these cycles?  What is wrong with the transition from brilliant software development to sustainable business models? </p>
<p>There have been lots of good suggestions.  <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/12/sherlock-holmes-problem/#comment-50913" target="_blank">Defective analytical culture</a>.  <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/01/repeating-the-past/#comment-48780" target="_blank">Incompetent industry analysts</a>.  <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/01/repeating-the-past/#comment-50531" target="_blank">Short-sighted business goals</a> (more on that one <a href="http://www.jimnovo.com/LTV-CFO.htm" target="_blank">here</a>).</p>
<p>But when I <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2006/12/31/root_cause/" target="_blank">keep asking &#8220;why?&#8221;</a> for a lot of these issues, I always come back two two ideas:  Wrong Model and Dumb Money</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Wrong Model</span></strong> &#8211; Why, over and over, are new platforms and applications built that fail to provide proper context hooks for Display Advertising, and are not structured to take advantage of Search?  I&#8217;d guess it&#8217;s because developers simply have been fed a lot of crap about the true nature of Advertising and Marketing.  In case this concept is unclear, let me be specific: A random space with a random Display Ad in it creates very little, if any, Value for Marketers.  <a href="http://www.clickz.com/showPage.html?page=3630835" target="_blank">Context is king</a>.</p>
<p>CEO&#8217;s and  CMO&#8217;s are looking for the Strategy edge, and they are looking for ways Online is a &#8220;logical fit&#8221; into the Marketing Mix.  What is online &#8220;for&#8221;, and perhaps more importantly, <strong>what can Online Advertising do better than Advertising we already have?</strong></p>
<p>This concept is extremely important because if you can get to this place, then you have leverage, then you have the ability to draw more money into online Marketing / Analysis &#8211; <strong>because it is different</strong>. </p>
<p>When everything you come up with <strong>replicates the offline model</strong> but doesn&#8217;t work as well &#8211; take Display Advertising, for example, which is the business model most every &#8220;new&#8221; idea uses &#8211; then how would you expect to get any Marketing respect / budget? </p>
<p>Seriously, this approach looks ridiculous from outside the small world (budget-wise) of Online.  Think about it.  What other medium relentlessly pursues a failed business model so persistently, hoping something will change?</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Dumb Money</strong></span>- either VC / Buyout money or stupid (unaccountable) money coming from Advertisers &#8211; is in many ways just the enabler of the Wrong Model problem.  It allows these innovators to stop thinking about what they are doing, to really create something different as far as Advertising / Marketing goes. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just too easy to say &#8220;make sure we leave space for Display Ads&#8221; and leave it at that, instead of building in the plumbing to give the advertising proper context.  I&#8217;m not going to go deeper into the fundamental problems of Display Advertising on the Web here as I covered these issues in the <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/online-brand-ing-series/" target="_blank">Online Brand-ing series</a>.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Conclusion</span></strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve spent a long time thinking about how to define the &#8220;correct model&#8221; for online Marketing comprehensively, and found it&#8217;s a deep hole I can&#8217;t travel down further than I already have at this time.  I think readers of this blog probably know which direction I am <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/engagement-framework/" target="_blank">leaning on this model</a>.  Perhaps we can do that together at a later date (feel free to leave your Comments on the correct model).  I do know what doesn&#8217;t work, though, and am surprised we keep repeating that model.</p>
<p>For now, here&#8217;s a prediction: The first social network to:</p>
<p>1.  Drive &#8220;vertical&#8221;, highly segmented participation, which drives context for Display Ads, and</p>
<p>2.  Becomes transparent to web-wide Search or uses Search really well internally to expose rich contextual spaces</p>
<p>will be the first social network to make money.  How do I know this?</p>
<p>Because the same thing has happened over and over again already with each new generation of technology.  If you&#8217;re on the Marketing / Analytics side of Online, you know this to be true, right?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a genius, I just remember history.</p>
<p>Can anyone give me a reason why the next generation of platforms and applications can&#8217;t be built with these two ideas embedded in them from the beginning?</p>
<p>Other comments on the above?</p>
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		<title>Sherlock Holmes Problem</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Novo</dc:creator>
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I think this is probably the last Learning and Teaching issue in Online Marketing (series starts here) before attempting to evaluate and summarize the challenge.  I would like to receive comments from you on the Sherlock Holmes Problem.
&#8220;There are two types of minds &#8212; the mathematical and what might be called the intuitive. The former arrives at its views [...]<p>Have a question on Customer Valuation, Retention, Loyalty, or Defection?  Go ahead and send it to me <a href="mailto:help@jimnovo.com">here</a>.  If on the topic above, you can leave a comment on the post:</p>
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<p>I think this is probably the last Learning and Teaching issue in Online Marketing (series <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/08/24/learn-anything-at-ses/" target="_blank">starts here</a>) before attempting to evaluate and summarize the challenge.  I would like to receive comments from you on the Sherlock Holmes Problem.</p>
<p>&#8220;There are two types of minds &#8212; the mathematical and what might be called the intuitive. The former arrives at its views slowly, but they are firm and rigid; the latter is endowed with greater flexibility and applies itself simultaneously to the dive.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaise_Pascal" target="_blank">Blaise Pascal</a></p></blockquote>
<p>In his post <a href="http://christopher-berry.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-skills-of-night-auditor-translate.html">How the Skills of a Night Auditor Translate into Web Analytics</a>, Christopher Berry explores a notion we have wrestled with a lot while developing the <a href="http://www.webanalyticsassociation.org/education/certification/" target="_blank">WAA&#8217;s Certified Web Analyst Test</a> &#8211; can you teach someone to be curious in a &#8220;business analytics&#8221; way?  Or are people just born with / socialized into this skill set?  How do you measure and test someone for &#8220;analytical curiosity&#8221;?</p>
<p>We have referred to these issues internally on the Education Committee as the &#8220;Sherlock Holmes&#8221; problem.  The issue is not the ability to read and interpret reports, or write up findings, or anything like that.  It&#8217;s the ability to see coincidences or oddities in the data, to conceptualize linkage or relationships others don&#8217;t see, to follow the data trail (or blaze it) right down to <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2006/12/31/root_cause/" target="_blank">Root Cause</a>.</p>
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<p>From what I have seen over the years, in both web analytics and traditional BI, there are many technical masters of the analytical tools.  Relatively few of these folks, however, also have the &#8220;Sherlock Holmes ability&#8221;.  They can answer any question you have, but they don&#8217;t come up with the questions.  That&#8217;s the Holmes side - coming up with the breakthrough questions.  And figuring out how to answer them.  The analysis, well, that&#8217;s just the mechanics.</p>
<p>Our friend Pascal above speaks of the &#8220;mathematical&#8221; and &#8221;intuitive&#8221; minds.  I often wonder if there is something about learning &#8220;Programming&#8221; and &#8220;Marketing&#8221; that creates a rigid way of learning on either side that is mutually exclusive with the other.  The intersection or &#8221;cross&#8221; of these two mindsets, the corpus callosum if you will &#8211; is seemingly rare.  Can you train / learn to cross your brains?  I have referred to this idea as &#8220;<a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2007/08/10/marketing-technology-interface/" target="_blank">being a little “<strong>less scientific</strong>” on the Technical side and a little “<strong>more specific</strong>” on the Marketing side</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p>Having spent a good deal of time in the hospitality biz myself, I can tell you there are night auditors who just &#8220;run the reports&#8221; and night auditors who deliver great insights; these are the Holmes.  A common &#8220;fault&#8221; you hear about these folks is &#8220;they ask too many questions&#8221;.</p>
<p>My wife says I ask too many questions.  Why do you want to know?</p>
<p>I dunno, I just want to understand it.</p>
<p>But why do you need to understand it?</p>
<p>I dunno, I just do.  I like understanding things.</p>
<p>Can being a night auditor teach you to become a great analyst, if you work at it hard enough?  Or were you somehow born or socialized into being a great analyst, and night auditor is just one of those analyst jobs?  There are three related &#8220;Sherlock Holmes&#8221; Learning issues in my mind: Pattern Recognition, Empathy, and Hypothesis.</p>
<p><strong>Pattern Recognition &#8211; the &#8220;math&#8221; brain?</strong></p>
<p>I have always described my particular skill in analytics as &#8220;I see patterns&#8221; (I know, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sixth_Sense" target="_blank">cue the music</a>).  I&#8217;m not sure where this skill comes from, but it&#8217;s been a skill for as long as I can remember, from taking music lessons through working on case studies in school and on into my business career.  Perhaps more importantly, I know how to translate these patterns into Marketing programs that generate increased profits (but that&#8217;s the &#8220;other brain&#8221;, see below).</p>
<p>Much of what Christopher talks about in his post is pattern recognition, or often more importantly, the deviation from the patterns you expect to see.  For example, (Hypothesis) closing the kitchen at 11 PM will increase total liquor sales across the dining room and bar.  Once you analyze and prove this, it&#8217;s easy for others to analyze and follow (and post on blogs and have conferences about!)</p>
<p>But how about the ability to even conceive this question in the first place?  Not to mention running through the possible outcomes &#8211; what if they drink less $100 a bottle wine in the dining room and instead have $5 drinks in the bar?  How many $5 drinks would they have to have?  Is my projection logical?</p>
<p>I know, depends on the audience&#8230;</p>
<p>But seriously, how do you teach people Pattern Recognition, or to Recognize Lack of Pattern?  How do you test people for this capability?  <a href="Rorschach" target="_blank">Rorschach Tests</a>?</p>
<p><strong>Empathy &#8211; the &#8220;marketing brain&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen a lot of material on analytical thought &#8211; right brain versus left brain mix, deductive versus inductive thinker, etc.  Sometimes I think analytical ability has a lot to do with Empathy &#8211; can you understand and visualize the players, think about what they would do.  How many &#8220;boozers&#8221; are there in the dining room on a Saturday night, and <strong>what would they do</strong> if we closed the kitchen at 11 PM?</p>
<p>Perhaps this pull towards Empathy as a key component of being Sherlock Holmes is my Marketing background speaking, because it&#8217;s very common in Marketing to have to &#8220;step into the shoes&#8221; of the customer or audience.  Again, I can tell you from experience, it is difficult for many analysts to &#8221;Pretend you are a woman over 50&#8243;.  Even more difficult &#8211; and often more critical - is to then answer the question &#8220;Given you are a woman over 50, what would you do or think?&#8221;  The concept of Personas is meant to address some of this problem, make the challenge more tangible for people.  But you still have the &#8220;what would the Persona do or think&#8221; issue.</p>
<p>How do you Teach or Learn this skill?  I think there is a concrete answer here &#8211; you simply have to read a lot of valid research (<a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2007/08/10/research-for-press/" target="_blank">not this kind</a>), and then take the time to think about it, connect it to experience.  I do see the tremendous amount of twisted and corrupt research that gets passed around the blogosphere as &#8220;truth&#8221; being a <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/08/28/consensus-learning-model/" target="_blank">severe Teaching / Learning challenge</a> though.  No wonder people are confused and always searching for &#8220;the truth&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>Hypothesis &#8211; the brains meet</strong></p>
<p>Once you know using Landing Pages is a good idea, it&#8217;s not very hard to measure and report on that idea, replicate and copy it, spread it through conferences and blogs.  It&#8217;s an important idea, so important in fact we are <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/08/24/learn-anything-at-ses/" target="_blank">still talking about it 10 years later</a>. </p>
<p>But somebody had to invent the concept of a Landing Pages in the first place.  And when that idea came out of seemingly thin air, also devise a way to prove it was a good idea.  Hypothesis and Test.  It seems to me Online Marketing / Web Analytics is absolutely chock full of Tests, many of them without a Hypothesis.  Instead, we have a lot of brute force Testing, and then a winner is chosen.</p>
<p>This could be why there is a <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/08/28/consensus-learning-model/" target="_blank">glacially slow learning curve</a>; in fact, all this testing is &#8220;one-off&#8221; activity and people really <strong>are not Learning</strong> the fundamentals, not connecting the dots, as it were.  So these folks just keep <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/01/repeating-the-past/" target="_blank">Repeating the Past</a>.  Testing without a Hypothesis is a very robotic way to look at Online Marketing and Analysis, and at the very least wastes a lot of time.  This brain &#8220;Arrives at its views slowly, but they are firm and rigid&#8221;, as Pascal would say.</p>
<p>Do people really have to repeat the &#8220;Landing Page&#8221; test with every new piece of online media?  I guess you would have to, if you didn&#8217;t have the Hypothesis &#8220;message continuity in a sequence of online advertising pieces will result in a higher response rate&#8221;.  I can tell you it does.  I can tell you it always has offline as well.  It&#8217;s just a fundamental rule, especially in direct marketing, for example:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/07/11/offline-path-analysis/" target="_blank">Outer Envelope &gt; Teaser &gt; Open Envelope &gt; Johnson Box &gt; P.S. &gt; Letter &gt; Reply Device</a></p>
<p>The better integrated these messages are &#8211; the stronger the &#8220;scent&#8221; &#8211; the higher the response.   There is not a need to keep testing this idea.  Think about it &#8211; does it make any sense to you, is it possible that a random series of disconnected messages would get a higher response rate?  Really?</p>
<p>Lack of  Hypothesis for each test may be the most crippling Learning problem out there, and perhaps the most difficult to crack because it requires both brains to be in gear at the same time.  In other words, creating a breakthrough Hypothesis probably requires <strong>both</strong> Pattern Recognition and Empathy.</p>
<p>In case the concept of Hypothesis is not quite clear, I don&#8217;t view an &#8220;educated guess&#8221; as a Hypothesis; you need to provide concrete reasons for the Hypothesis, fully <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/08/22/marketing-productivity-analysts/" target="_blank">explaining why</a> the outcome should occur.  The good news underlying the Hypothesis approach is this: by being proved wrong or right every time &#8211; instead of just waiting for outcome &#8211; folks will start to Learn.  Just shrugging your shoulders and accepting the outcome of a test doesn&#8217;t create Learning. </p>
<p><strong>Write it down</strong>, what do you think the result of the test will be and why?  At some point, people will begin to say to themselves, &#8220;Hey, this test looks like these other ones.  My Hypothesis is&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>And more often that not, they will be correct.  Sometimes they will <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2007/03/09/nice-to-new-customers/" target="_blank">be spectacularly wrong</a>, and that&#8217;s OK, because <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/fear_analytics/" target="_blank">Failure is a Learning Experience</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong></p>
<p>So that&#8217;s the Sherlock Holmes Problem. </p>
<p>Comments on any of the above?  Are great Analysts born, socialized, taught?  Have I completely missed the core issue, and something else - lack of proper analytical culture, for example &#8211; is really the root cause of a slow learning curve?  <a href="http://blog.clickz.com/080317-151839.html" target="_blank">HIPPOS</a> don&#8217;t know how to form a Hypothesis, and resent one being formed for them?</p>
<p>Anyone know of resources (preferably focused on education) dissecting these issues / providing learning solutions?</p>
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		<title>Consensus Learning Model</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Novo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My question about whether you learned anything at SES or not didn&#8217;t get much reaction.  I suspect the answers were polarized, with half the people thinking &#8220;not really, I go there for other reasons&#8221; and the other half thinking &#8220;of course I did&#8221;.
Answers to that question might have been helpful, but&#8230;
What I&#8217;m really questioning is this: How [...]<p>Have a question on Customer Valuation, Retention, Loyalty, or Defection?  Go ahead and send it to me <a href="mailto:help@jimnovo.com">here</a>.  If on the topic above, you can leave a comment on the post:</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question about whether you <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/08/24/learn-anything-at-ses/" target="_blank">learned anything at SES</a> or not didn&#8217;t get much reaction.  I suspect the answers were polarized, with half the people thinking &#8220;not really, I go there for other reasons&#8221; and the other half thinking &#8220;of course I did&#8221;.</p>
<p>Answers to that question might have been helpful, but&#8230;</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m really questioning is this: How do people in the web space learn what they learn?  Associated questions are:</p>
<p>1.  Has quantity eclipsed quality as a yardstick for the success?</p>
<p>2.  Implications for Teachers / Course Developers of the answer to #1</p>
<p>There are also some serious implications for &#8220;Web Marketing&#8221; adoption (in all forms) by the broader Marketing community buried in the above.  To me, this is not unlike the &#8220;CRM Problem&#8221;, where for years (and still) people confused the Technology solution with the Marketing potential, which set CRM back a decade.</p>
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<p>In particular, what interests me the most is what seems like a glacially <strong>slow learning curve</strong> among practitioners of Online Marketing.</p>
<p>Example: Given all the technology we have, given the immediacy of knowledge distribution and the number of voices, and given the absolute boatload of mistakes and learning that have taken place since the early 90&#8217;s, why are we (in the case of SES) <strong>still</strong> talking about landing pages and title tags like they are some kind of secret sauce? </p>
<p>These two topics have to be the most covered topics on the web, info on them is everywhere.  So why would senior people talk about them at the leading conference on Search Marketing?  Why wouldn&#8217;t these topics be confined to sessions for newbies?</p>
<p>I can only think of two macro reasons:</p>
<p>1.  Something must be broken about the Learning approach we&#8217;re using.  Perhaps involving Trust of the content or Authority of the Teachers, which causes people to simply not embrace the material.</p>
<p>2.  Something must be unique about the Learners themselves.  Perhaps they don&#8217;t accept any Learning as &#8220;solidified&#8221; or have a constant need for confirmation that what they know is &#8220;correct&#8221;.</p>
<p>Perhaps the &#8220;Wisdom of Crowds&#8221; has a natural downside.  The Consensus has to constantly be questioned and evaluated, over and over, because the Consensus lacks Trust and Authority. </p>
<p>Or, perhaps the Consensus Crowd can be fickle, and like a school of fish, suddenly turn and veer off in another direction.  So there&#8217;s a fear of missing these turns, creating a need for constant confirmation.</p>
<p>The above analysis is from an Education perspective, but I&#8217;m not sure it addresses <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2006/12/31/root_cause/" target="_blank">Root Cause</a>; these could be the symptoms of a larger problem, which is a confusion of Tactics and Strategy.  In other words, the Tactical tail wagging the Strategic dog.</p>
<p>Instead of the other way &#8217;round.</p>
<p>Perhaps slow learning is just a symptom of what is <strong>portrayed as </strong>(but is not really, from a Marketing perspective) an <strong>endless learning curve</strong> for various reasons that probably have to do with the technology heritage of the space.  In particular, the use of a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt" target="_blank">FUD</a> approach when pushing new technology ideas which is wholly inappropriate when pushing new Marketing ideas.</p>
<p>Technology is Tactical, Marketing is Strategic.  You can use FUD to sell new Tactical approaches based on new technology, but when you use FUD to push Strategic ideas like Marketing, what you&#8217;re doing is proving your idea is <strong>not worth spending any time on</strong>.</p>
<p>Example: the concept of &#8220;Message Continuity&#8221; or &#8220;Scent&#8221; can be embraced as a core philosopy of Marketing Communications, regardless of how it is expressed &#8211; Landing Page, Title Tag, Subject Line, whatever.  Just because the technology changes doesn&#8217;t mean the core idea of &#8220;Scent&#8221; changes &#8211; unless it is faulty to being with.  To say a new techology &#8220;changes everything&#8221; and requires new Learning only feeds the fire of doubt and provides reasons for &#8220;mainstream&#8221; Marketing people to doubt an idea is even worth considering.</p>
<p>FUD works against you, not for you, in the the world of Marketing Strategy, which is where the big dollars are locked up.</p>
<p>Am I wrong, am I misdirected, is there something I don&#8217;t understand? </p>
<p>Questions like these are very important to get a grip on for those of us in the &#8220;Education Space&#8221;, so comments are most welcome.  And (I think) there are broader implications buried in here for the  &#8220;speed of adoption&#8221; issue many online marketing spaces are facing.</p>
<p>Thoughts on any of the above?</p>
<p> </p>
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		<title>You Learn Anything at SES?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Novo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[SES = Search Engine Strategies San Jose, for those not in the know.
And I mean the question literally.  Not did you have a good time, see lots of friends, do a lot of beneficial networking, talk to customers, build your reputation, create content for your blog, etc.
Did you Learn anything?
Looking at the stream of blog [...]<p>Have a question on Customer Valuation, Retention, Loyalty, or Defection?  Go ahead and send it to me <a href="mailto:help@jimnovo.com">here</a>.  If on the topic above, you can leave a comment on the post:</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SES = <a href="http://www.searchenginestrategies.com/sanjose/" target="_blank">Search Engine Strategies San Jose</a>, for those not in the know.</p>
<p>And I mean the question literally.  Not did you have a good time, see lots of friends, do a lot of beneficial networking, talk to customers, build your reputation, create content for your blog, etc.</p>
<p>Did you <strong>Learn</strong> anything?</p>
<p>Looking at the stream of blog posts, video, Tweets and so forth &#8211; much of it incredibly repetitive by the way, which is a whole other issue for this type of Journalism &#8211; I have to wonder if anybody except those new to Search actually learned anything.  You know, walked away with new knowledge they could use to improve their efforts.</p>
<p>I have more than a passing curiosity about this issue from a macro perspective.  As you might know, I am a Co-Chair on the <a href="http://www.webanalyticsassociation.org/?page=education" target="_blank">Web Analytics Association&#8217;s Education Committee</a>, responsible for creating the WAA&#8217;s <a href="http://www.tech.ubc.ca/webanalytics/curric.html" target="_blank">Core Curriculum</a> and upcoming <a href="http://www.webanalyticsassociation.org/?page=certification" target="_blank">Certification Testing</a>.  So I think a lot about Learning and Education, especially as it relates to the web.  And that thinking includes different &#8220;delivery models&#8221; like Conferences.</p>
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<p>I can remember the first time I spoke at SES, it was the very early days of PPC and SES was mostly about SEO (Organic).  My presentation outlined how you could often generate higher quality traffic with PPC than with Organic Search, this traffic would convert at a much higher rate if you used an idea called &#8220;Landing Pages&#8221;, and you could prove all this with something called Web Analytics.</p>
<p>People were generally pretty stunned, like I was slaying the sacred cow of &#8220;free&#8221; SEO.  Then the questions:</p>
<p>Why should we care about &#8220;traffic quality&#8221;?<br />
What is the point of measuring conversion?<br />
Can you prove Navigation, Copy, and Usability are important?</p>
<p>I guess a lot of what I was saying was not &#8220;conventional widom&#8221; for this audience.  What I was saying they should really pay attention to was at odds with what they had heard from all their peers.</p>
<p>That was almost 7 years ago.  And I had been writing this stuff on my web site for 2 years before the first SES presentation.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s in all this Content streaming out of SES?</p>
<p>You should be concerned about &#8220;traffic quality&#8221;.<br />
Here&#8217;s how to create a Landing Page.<br />
Ideas like Navigation, Copy, and Usability are important.</p>
<p>Plus, the usual SEO stuff on title text, good copy, linking etc. that has been around in one form or another for 10 years.  Same content that was presented last year, and the year before, and the year before.</p>
<p>Except now the word &#8220;Social&#8221; is in the presentation titles.  My experience, SEO is really not any different for Social.  After all, Social is content, right?  Search engines find the content, index it, and people Search it.  Same basic rules apply, barring some of the more arcane technical <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt" target="_blank">FUD</a> stuff.</p>
<p>And most of that arcane stuff, if you really think it matters, is already posted online in the search forums or on blogs.  If you want to know this material, you can just Search for it.</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m not saying it isn&#8217;t fun to go to SES, or the presenters just repeat each other, or anything like that.  I&#8217;m just asking a very simple question.  If you&#8217;re not new to Search, did you add to your knowledge base while you were at SES San Jose?</p>
<p>Did you <strong>Learn</strong> anything at SES?</p>
<p>Do you think it&#8217;s possible the &#8220;conventional wisdom&#8221; Learning model that many web conferences are built on just might be broken?  For example, by the time a &#8220;community&#8221; agrees on what the &#8220;best practices&#8221; are enough to pick experts to speak at conferences, the knowledge dispensed at the conference is already widely known?</p>
<p>And as a result, most people (other than newbies) go to these conferences for reasons other than Learning anything new?</p>
<p>Very interested in hearing your thoughts on this!</p>
<p>(If you want to read this whole series on &#8220;learning online marketing&#8221; and what a farce it is, read the  next 7 consecutive posts, listed below)</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/08/28/consensus-learning-model/">Consensus Learning Model</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/01/repeating-the-past/">Repeating the Past</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/12/sherlock-holmes-problem/">Sherlock Holmes Problem</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/16/wrong-model-dumb-money/">Wrong Model, Dumb Money</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/23/no-requirements-doc-for-online-marketing/">No Requirements Doc for Online Marketing?</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/09/30/new-online-marketing-model/">New Online Marketing Model First?</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/10/08/broken-online-model-endcap/">Broken Online Model Endcap</a></p>
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		<title>Business Prevention Committee</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Novo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you have a BPC (Business Prevention Committee) where you work?
The BPC may not have a formal meeting schedule, so it can be difficult to tell who is actually on the Committee.  But you can often tell who is on the BPC by looking for these signs:
1.  Person has a narrow view of the company or customer, a [...]<p>Have a question on Customer Valuation, Retention, Loyalty, or Defection?  Go ahead and send it to me <a href="mailto:help@jimnovo.com">here</a>.  If on the topic above, you can leave a comment on the post:</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have a BPC (Business Prevention Committee) where you work?</p>
<p>The BPC may not have a formal meeting schedule, so it can be difficult to tell who is actually on the Committee.  But you can often tell who is on the BPC by looking for these signs:</p>
<p>1.  Person has a narrow view of the company or customer, a &#8220;my silo&#8221; thinker.  For example, a Marketing person who doesn&#8217;t care about the negative impact of a marketing program on customer service.</p>
<p>2.  Person is generally averse to testing new ideas, a &#8220;this is the way it has always been done&#8221; kind of personality.  BPC&#8217;ers never admit to being wrong about an idea, especially ones that have to do with &#8220;change&#8221; of some kind.</p>
<p>3.  Talk of performance-based measurement and compensation makes BPC&#8217;ers very nervous.  Not fans of their own skin in the game, getting a little risk on the table.  Like many bloggers, they just repeat what they read.  No data, no conviction, and no responsibility.</p>
<p>4.  A fundamental lack of knowledge about how the business really works.  Worse, won&#8217;t take the time to find out what they don&#8217;t know because &#8220;that&#8217;s not my job&#8221;.</p>
<p>The best way to go about dismantling the BPC in your company is?</p>
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<p>Analytics.  Customer, Marketing, Sales, Web Site, Supply Chain, Business Process, Service, Fulfillment.  All of it. </p>
<p>The common denominator you use to tie it all together?  The effect on the customer, Customer Value (or Engagement, or whatever KPI drives profit).  Each &#8220;view&#8221; of the business data should resolve to the customer level - that&#8217;s the only way to find the variances.  Then roll up to segments and look for clusters, for example:</p>
<p>Best Visitors, Commentors, Participants who have stopped Engaging.</p>
<p>Customers who bought a specific product that are no longer active.</p>
<p>Prospects who had a certain salesperson that are no longer active.</p>
<p>Affiliates tagged for a service problem that are no longer active.</p>
<p>Not Reporting, mind you.  Analysis.</p>
<p>And then Optimizing cross-functional Processes.  Here&#8217;s a great example of <a href="http://www.mckinseyquarterly.com/Information_Technology/Management/From_internal_service_provider_to_strategic_partner_An_interview_with_the_head_of_Global_Business_Se">how this works at P &amp; G</a> (free log in, worth it) from their head of Global Business Services, which includes IT.</p>
<p>Talk about an Optimization.  If P &amp; G can do it, you can too.</p>
<p>All of this talk about &#8220;Customer Experience&#8221; and &#8221;Social Marketing&#8221; is crap if you don&#8217;t do something about it.  Instead of worrying about what people are saying and spending a lot of time hunting down posts and responding to them, why don&#8217;t you fix the damn systems and policies that <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2008/08/01/social-for-business/" target="_blank">you already know are broken</a>?</p>
<p>Not your job, Marketer or Analyst?  You&#8217;re part of the problem, not part of the solution.  For example, do you have any idea what percentage of prospects or audience you target never become customers due to:</p>
<ul>
<li>Payment processing problems</li>
<li>Customer Service problems</li>
<li>Fulfillment problems</li>
</ul>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you know?  Isn&#8217;t it just as important to know how much money you are wasting due to the above as it is to know how effective your campaigns are?  So you&#8217;re <strong>comfortable</strong> with the fact that a known service problem decreased conversion on your campaigns by 10%, for example?  What if it&#8217;s 20%?  Do you know?</p>
<p>Dig this quote from the P &amp; G piece:</p>
<p>&#8220;Our opinion is that if you optimize by function, you will inevitably end up creating silos, which would carry the risk of fragmentation.  By integrating all these services into one organization, we can manage them by work process rather than by function and better leverage scale and create synergies.  Take purchase-to-payment for suppliers, for example.  Some of this work is normally in procurement, some in accounting, and some in finance.  We can have one group of people who handle the whole process and so avoid handovers across multiple functions, each with its own management and perhaps different objectives and incentives.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sounds to me like they deployed the <a href="http://blog.jimnovo.com/2006/12/31/root-cause-the-check-shredding-example/#SWAT" target="_blank">Business SWAT team</a>.</p>
<p>Web teams, you can do this.  Do the Business SWAT thing.   Optimizing the entire business is not very different from Optimizing a web site &#8211; except it&#8217;s harder, of course.  But since when did &#8221;hard&#8221; stop you?  Same process.  Cross-functional teams, agree on goals, get baseline metrics, make changes, view results, iterate, continuous improvement.</p>
<p>Do you have a BPC where you work?  Do you have a personal &#8220;dismantling the BPC with analytics&#8221; win you&#8217;d like to share?</p>
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